I’ll be the first to tell you that I am a super picky person. I am going to look at everything you say, the way to say it and if I get the tiniest whiff of BS I am going to call you on it. BUT I find it thoroughly amazing that people would be surprised that many New Yorkers didn’t actually see the first plane hit the World Trade Center.

Most of these people, like Jennifer Oberstein here, were just going about their daily lives, why would they be looking towards the twin towers? That is just stupid, and as far as the noise, she is some distance away I think, but a lot of noise going on in NY and you tune a lot of it out when you live there. So this kind of commentating I feel is a little on the dumb side.

Wait, never mind (I am still in the process of writing this as I watch the video) now she says she did look up as she was exiting the subway and saw the explosion but not the plane. That doesn’t detract from my earlier statement though, people do tune things out and most New Yorkers, even visitors to the city do not spend their entire life staring at the towers waiting for something to happen.

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Read Family Members Of Doomed 911 Flights ‘Strangely Silent’ About Irregularities & Inconsistencies Of Official Government Story
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No Body No Crime

Bull shit! I call bull shit on anyone who is going to try and tell me that a plane actually crashed into the pentagon. No way. There are too many discrepeancies to count. Literally.

Let’s take the big ball of obvious and run with it, shall we?

Why is there no plane wreckage in the pictures? No seats, no engines, no wings, no bodies. Where did the bodies go? Oh, they burned up you say? Uh, NO. Not possible.

I mean, sure some of them would have been burned but there is no way they would have been incinerated. I don’t buy this theory when it comes to the Twin Towers either but at least some stupid people might be convinced with the whole squish factor. Clearly 111 floors or so is going to take a toll on the human body.

BUT the Pentagon “crash” is nothing but a regular old plane crash. I don’t know if you know this, but planes crash all the time and there are always bodies recovered. Even in the middle of the goddamn ocean you will usually find bodies.

It’s not like the Pentagon is a massive structure that came down, it has only 5 floors above ground. Planes, both big and small have crashed into mountains, cliff faces, been blown up over the ocean and still bodies were recovered, plenty of them too.

I did read some references to “bodies burned beyong recognition” and the fact that “the chances of identifying them would be almost unimaginable.” WTF? Have they never heard of DNA? You don’t need a body to be recognizable to the eye to identify it, even back then in 2001. How stupid do they think we are?

If a plane carrying people crashed into the Pentagon there had to have been bodies found. There just had to.

Pancake Theory, Really?

I’m not saying I don’t think the Twin Towers could have collapsed on September 11, 2001, like I said, I’m no engineer BUT freefall? I don’t see it. I have to admit, I was a bit on board with the pancake theory, until I started watching the videos and learning more about it.

If one of the floors collapsed, it would fall to the next, sure, but there would be at the very least a few moments during which the lower floors suppored the extra weight, especially at the beginning. For everything to collapse and fall at one time, core and all? That’s not very realistic I don’t think.

Opinions? I am open to them.

Silence speaks a thousand words as they say and never has that been more true than when it comes to Flights 93, 77, 175 and 11. Those planes went down on a historical day back in 2001 and for some reason we aren’t hearing any squawking from their families. There is like, one woman with enough doubt to speak out, but just one? Really? Why is that?

Why is it that when thousands of families who lost loved ones in the WTC buildings are screaming at the top of their lungs for answers, all of the families from the victims in the planes are silent?

Were not their families taken in the same, violent and brutal way? Are they not curious as to why the government didn’t manage to learn about the attacks before they were carried out? Are they not a little upset at the thought that somewhere along the line mistakes were made? Mistakes that cost their fathers, husbands, daughters, parents and friends their lives?

Apparently not because I have been searching for information like this, info that would show me that these victims had families who cared, who hurt and who had real emotions like anger. I can’t imagine what it was like for anyone on that day but I do know that if it was someone I loved that was lost there would be a hell of a lot of explaining to do. I would not easily accept whatever platitudes and excuses were thrown at me, no way. I would want real, solid, logical answers and I think it gets clearer by the day that there were none like that given in terms of 9/11.

Personally this silence, this lack of rage is one of the things that convinces me that perhaps there was no Flight 77, no Flight 93. I mean, the physical evidence isn’t there and never was, now you throw the fact that the families are all creepily quiet? Where there is silence there is something to hide.

Ask any psychologist and they will tell you that this is not the normal reaction of those facing this kind of loss. You can argue that everyone is different and I accept that, but out of the 246 people who were reported to have died on the planes, only ONE of them thinks the investigation wasn’t good enough? You don’t have to be a math genius to see that is pretty unlikely. But I digress.

Psychologists say that in a terrorist event such as September 11 most people are going to be stripped of all allegiance to, well, pretty much everything. State, country, President, you name it. The only thing that is going to exist for these people is the burning need to know why. Why did this happen, why didn’t anyone see it coming, why didn’t the Air Force do something, why did President Bush keep reading about ducks while people were dying and fighting to live?

Think about how many hundreds of loved ones were left behind, look me in the face and tell me that it makes sense that they all believed everything the government told them, even after all the discrepancies started to come to light. Please. No one trusts the government that much.

No Plane Theory Party FIVE:

I don’t have any trouble believing that the planes that crashed into tower one and two were not commercial planes. I son’t have a solid opinion about that at this time.

Now, what I do know is that people make terrible witness, they get things wrong, mixed up, they automatically pick up what they other people around them saying and all of that becomes part of the truth. That’s why in trials eye witness accounts aren’t enough to prosecute and win in a lot of cases.

When they show the plane in this video it does look really gray, a dark gray but again, you can see it is in the shadows. Just before it hits the building the wing and tail goes into the sunlight and it isn’t so dark looking anymore.

Oh one more thing, they said they couldn’t have been planes that hit because there was no wing shaped crash to the building, I looked at other videos and images and I was able to see the planes wing slice into the building.

If you’re interested you can read what I had to say about Part One and Part Two of this World Trade Center series in my previous posts.

Part THREE of WTC No Plane Theory Series:

You see the first tower burning, the second tower in behind it and to the left. This leaves a gap of space between the first tower hit and whatever that building is beside it. In this view we cannot see tower 2, it is hidden by tower 1. You can see the explosion from the crash though, that mushrooms out from around building one.

The person who made this video talks about something black near the bottom of the screen just before the second tower was hit. I think that it’s perfectly reasonable to believe it was the plane, not a missile as the narrator claims. You can’t see a whole lot of it because the gap in the buildings is pretty small from this angle. And the whole “wingless” thing,? The images are so blurry and it was moving so fast it’s easy to see why things like that wouldn’t be super clean. This isn’t high def we are talking about, and the angle of the plane, the shade in relation to the morning sun and the surrounding buildings all have to be taken into consideration.

Think I saw wings when they said there was none in the video they were highlighting. Again I think the light played with the image a bit, and you could definitely see the left wing when it crashed into the tower at about 2.34 on the WTC No Plane Theory (Part 3) vid,

Honestly I think a lot of this is grasping at straws. I remember watching it all that day, and I’ve watched a lot of videos lately and there were a LOT of birds flying around the area, flocks of them. Which I thought was weird btw, but that is a different topic. That speck pointed out near the end could be a million different things. Every sing day there are plane and helicopter trours flying over the river for the tourists, it could have been one of those. Could also be a bird, oddly enough there were tons and tons of them around the building that day.

As for the sound, I don’t necessarily think that it is impossible for these to be more than one explosion. First you have the plane actually crashing, one explosion, then you have it coming out the other side, two explosions, then you have the fuel tank actually blowing up for what makes at least 3 explosions. That will come one by one.

I can’t make any comments on the sirens because I would need to hear from the policemen and firemen involved why they shut off their sirens. I know that sirens make it harder for everyone to hear what is going on, that’s why they wear those special headsets. They very well could have been asked to shut down the sirens so everyone could hear what was happening and what they should do. That, to me, makes sense. That would have been a wide broadcast too all responding officers.

I find this part of the series so far the most annoying. Planes have an annoying shriek too, missiles aren’t the only things that have them. BUT in my opinion the person making this video is full of shit, I think it’s totally possible that the “missile shriek” they say they heard the one they replay over and over for a split second, is the sound of one of the rescue sirens. It’s so short, it def could be.

You may or may not have read my previous post about what I thought about the first part of the World Trade Center No Plane Theory documentary on YouTube. If not you can read my commentary to get caught up to speed, but most of my comments are directly related to the video at the top of each post, so I don’t think you will be lost if you watch the one above and read my opinions below:

Part TWO of the WTC No Plane Theory

They show what a Boeing is supposed to look like, it’s gray with stripes, then the commentary in the video says ooooh, look at how black it looks is this super crappy video. Clearly it’s a darker plane. The video was hideous in terms of clarity, all fuzzy and out of focus, in my esteemed opinion it could still have been a Boeing.

The next thing they want you to see is that in the video from the street just before the plane comes into contact with Tower 2 you can “clearly see” the plane is white. I hate to burst anyone’s bubble but it was a bright sunny morning and if the sun hit the plane just right it could definitely appear very light in color. Besides, am not even sure what color the plane really was supposed to be, I am going to have to go and look that up now. They weren’t all the exact same planes I don’t think.

Video writing on the screen says you can’t have it both ways. BUT you can. Depending on the way the sun is hitting the plane it can easily look all dark or not. I have personally seen planes that looked a dark shade of gray and many of them were really a light color. The video keeps refrencing the way the plane changes color from when it’s approaching the scene to when it actually hits, I think this could be explained by the morning sun or the quality of the video. What they show of the “black plane” is nowhere near the quality of the video of the white one. Of course I’m no expert, but then again neither are the people saying these things.

Too many people were there on September 11 watching from the street, too many people with camera phones, and cameras, it’s been seen from every possible angle and there is no way they could get everyone to lie for them, no way they could have tracked down every single person who may have snapped a shot. I can’t buy that at all.

BUT I am totally open to why the planes hit and who was behind it. I don’t think Bush was behind it but his cronies? I think they are more than capable of pulling off this kind of evil for their own means. They couldn’t trust Bush to not screw things up so of course they would keep him out of the loop, he is way too stupid to let in on the deal.

I have watched 3 parts already and taken so many notes it’s like a friggen essay already! I will post each of the three videos with my comments one post at a time.

Part ONE of WTC No Plane Theory

I do think a plane could pass through the World Trade Center buildings with it’s nose intact. The plane that hit that day never passed through the core of the building which is the most solid part, the shape of it would help as well. It crashed on the side and the curvature of the nose of any plane is designed that way for a reason. The vast speed alone would easily propel the place through the building

I can buy a missile hitting the pentagon but I don’t believe that no planes hit the towers on September 11th. I can believe the planes had explosives attached to them to create more damage but too many individual sources caught the planes hitting the towers from all angles for me to even consider they didn’t exist.

This guy needs to write a guidebook for terrorists thinking of using airplanes as weapons. That way we would all be forever safe on jet planes.

A Nigerian man on Northwest Flight 253 flying from Amsterdam to Detroit, caused quite a stir on board on Christmas day. People saw a flash of light, heard a pop and then all hell broke loose. People started to really lose their shit, as I probably would if I had been there.

Anyway, this terrorist suspect, Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, 23 years old, and with known ties to terror groups, ignited a small explosive device as the plane was going in for it’s landing at a Michigan airport. But it didn’t come easy for him.

He spent over 20 minutes in the bathroom prior to the “explosion” trying to fix the device. It was basically a powder he had strapped to him with duct tape. He was supposed to inject a liquid into that powder in order to create the chemical explosion. The problem was the way he had the duct tape wrapped it was preventing the liquid from flowing the way he needed it to. So he ended up with more fizzle than bang. What.An.Idiot.

One passenger said it sounded like someone popped a balloon and the smell of something burning soon followed. He could see there was a commotion in the cabin but didn’t know what was happening right away.

He heard someone asking “what are you doing, what are you doing” repeatedly when a man sitting a few rows behind him, Jasper Schuringa, leaped over a group of seats and tackled the would be killer, putting him in a headlock.

It was at that point that others decided to lend a hand and helped to subdue the suspect. His pants were on fire, Schuringa reported seeing the Nigerian holding something on fire between his legs. With passengers screaming in the background others were rushing every which way, as best they could in the confines of a plane, getting water, a fire extinguisher and blankets to subdue the flames.

Schuringa sustained burns to his hands when he grabbed the device from Abdulmutallab and attempted to put out the flame with his hands.

They got him put out, took him to the front of the plane (wouldn’t it have been wiser to get him farther away from the cockpit rather than closer to it?) and stripped him down to make sure there were no other nasty surprises hidden under his clothes. At least none that could blow up.

He was then transferred to first class where he could nurse his wounds in the extra comfortable seats while he waited to be taken into custody after landing.

Witnesses said he seemed to have several burns to his body and though some looked like they were at least 2nd and 3rd degree burns, he didn’t seem to show any pain response at all. He did however seem rather surprised. I guess he was expecting to be dead by then.